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Post by jaymz Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:22 am

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sir u mean kung fire eye ang kukunin ko kelangan ko talaga yung SS specific chain? para sa inyo po ano ang pinaka mabigat na gear for urban lang naman kasi. d ko kaya malamang ipang trails ang SS kasi! hehehehehe and sa tingin nyo po ba yung alivio na cranks ok lang pang SS???

for the ones available presently, yes. you need a SS-specific/BMX chain.
teka... how do you use ba your bike sa urban? jumping ba o just pedaling?
kung jumping, i dont know... baka 16T or heavier para may momentum... if pedaling from point A to point B... i'm sure 16T ang recom ng karamihan... but for me, i use 18T... may climbs pa rin ang ruta ko even on streets...

alivio or acera or tourney, pwede... pwede pa nga yung GTS crank for BMX, kung fit sa BB ng MTB...


king wrote:hassle yun a. yung mga akin (16 & 18T) generic lang galing kay westcoastbo dati. gamit ko lang mga tirang IG or HG chains.
baka iba yung sa fire eye.

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baka sinaunang fireeye design yan king What a Face

skamper wrote:aniother question! heheheeh ano po yung ramped? ano po difference?

(visual)
ramped: see da bomb cog image above...
non-ramped: see fireeye cog image above...

the ramped is the same design with cogs used for gearies... the ramps are needed to assist the transfer of the chain from one cog to another... 'may possibility' kasi na mag auto-shift pag ramped ang cog... (same with the chainring)...
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Post by king Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:32 am

generic lang ito jaymz, not Fire Eye. kala ko pareho lang. yung 16t kasama yata dati sa 9-1 kit ng Da Bomb.
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Post by skamper Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:17 pm

jaymz wrote:
skamper wrote:

sir u mean kung fire eye ang kukunin ko kelangan ko talaga yung SS specific chain? para sa inyo po ano ang pinaka mabigat na gear for urban lang naman kasi. d ko kaya malamang ipang trails ang SS kasi! hehehehehe and sa tingin nyo po ba yung alivio na cranks ok lang pang SS???

for the ones available presently, yes. you need a SS-specific/BMX chain.
teka... how do you use ba your bike sa urban? jumping ba o just pedaling?
kung jumping, i dont know... baka 16T or heavier para may momentum... if pedaling from point A to point B... i'm sure 16T ang recom ng karamihan... but for me, i use 18T... may climbs pa rin ang ruta ko even on streets...

alivio or acera or tourney, pwede... pwede pa nga yung GTS crank for BMX, kung fit sa BB ng MTB...


king wrote:hassle yun a. yung mga akin (16 & 18T) generic lang galing kay westcoastbo dati. gamit ko lang mga tirang IG or HG chains.
baka iba yung sa fire eye.

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baka sinaunang fireeye design yan king What a Face

skamper wrote:aniother question! heheheeh ano po yung ramped? ano po difference?

(visual)
ramped: see da bomb cog image above...
non-ramped: see fireeye cog image above...

the ramped is the same design with cogs used for gearies... the ramps are needed to assist the transfer of the chain from one cog to another... 'may possibility' kasi na mag auto-shift pag ramped ang cog... (same with the chainring)...



ahhh naiintindihan ko na po lahat! heheheh urban by the means of padyak lang! ala service ko lang sa work! hehehehe pero 16T would do for me.... heheheheh thanks po sa mga info! malaking tulong po! salmat!

ok na kaya ang m475 hubs para dito?
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Post by sup Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:31 pm

kahit paralux pa na hubs, ok!

good luck skamper! post pics of the finish product din! Smile
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Post by skamper Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:59 am

thanks sa lahat ng sumagot! maybe next month tapos na SS ko! hehehehehe! salamat ulit!
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Post by skamper Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:44 pm

guys question para sa mga nahuhuling parts na wala ako! hehehehehe........

Cranks- mga sir... kukuha na po ako ng cranks itong dadating na sahod... ok na po kaya ang alivio cranks??? tatangalin ko lang yung big chain ring at granny d ba???? ok na po ba yun??? lalagyan ko na lang ng bash guard??? ang real problem ko is yung chain ring na talaga.... gusto ko is non ramped.. pano ko po gagawin yun? ok lag kaya kumuha ako ng bmx chain rin tapos pa machine shop ko na lang??? any cranks naman d ba pwede?
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Post by sup Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:59 pm

yes to all the things you said.

well, except the bash ring part. depende sa budget mo eh. you could go for 2nd hand cranksets din. for the chain rin na rampless at papa-machine shop mo, tanungin mo maigi yung tindera kung ang spacing ng teeth ay for multi-speed chains. pero yun nga, ok lang naman ang ramped middle ring kasi bakal (matibay).

pinaka-importante is chain line.
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Post by skamper Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:03 am

chain line po ay yun yung pagka tuwid ng line ng chain from the cogs to the cranks para d kumabyos d ba??? so magagawan po ng paraan ng tensioner yung chain line? tama po ba? or kailangan ko pa po medyo pwersahin yung chain tensioner ng kamay ko para tumuwid? kaya kaya ng lbs yun para madiretso yung chain line kung sakaling magkakaproblema?
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Post by obetski Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:58 am

if i may...

spacers sa cog sikreto sa magandang chain line, tensioner is primarily for chain tension at madali lang ito i-align. maganda ang surly spacer kit kasi madami sizes para derecho talaga ang chain line yun nga lang medyo pricey. kung ang spacer mo da bomb o kaya fireeye na 2 and 3 piece lang, minsan kelangan mo rin maglagay ng spacer (washer) sa chain ring (which what i did) para makuha mo straight chain line. pag straight yan, sigurado walang kabyos Smile
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Post by jaymz Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:03 am

@skamper,
no. it cannot be remedied by the tensioner or even a good mech.
you need exact spacers.
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Post by skamper Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:19 pm

salamat po sa mga reply! meron na ako ngayon is da bomb tensioner at da bomb ss kit. this comng friday kukuha na ako ng cranks at chain... d ba ok lang ang 8 speed chain para dito... para malaman ko na din kung diretso ang chain line ko....
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Post by sup Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:50 pm

ok ang 8 speed chain.

tingin ko (hula ko), pag iniwan mo sa loob ng crank arm yung middle ring (stock), ok ang chain line. magkaka-problema ka pag linagay mo sa labas ng crank arm yung chainring. yung stock na chainring bolts ay mahaba, kelangan mo ng washer pag sa loob ng crank arm ilagay ang chainring. a bash guard will act as a spacer. it's a nice alternative if you have the budget. P500 ata ang bash guard compared sa washer na relatively mura.
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Post by skamper Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:33 am

sir yan po ang plano ko.. kaya lang... dati nung my bike pa ako binalak ko po gawin yun. yung ipalit yung bashguard as a spacer.. kaya lang.. ayun bitin naman ang bolt kasi makapal yung bashguard... anong spacer po? lam nyo po ba yung sukat if ever na d ako maglalagay ng bashguard.... or san po makakabili ng bolts na mahaba para sa bashguard???
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Post by sup Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:49 am

nakalimutan ko na eh. alam ko meron information about spacer size sa pmtb.proboards7.com pwede mo rin dalin sa auto supply/bentahan ng screws, nuts and bolts yung chain ring bolts para sukat nila. yung akin dati, kinikil ko pa kasi sayad sa alivio na crank arm yung washer.

sorry, wala ako experience sa bashguard eh. i bought short bolts at cycleoptions around a year ago. ~300 ata yun. 'di ko na maalala magkano exactly, sorry.
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Post by johnO Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:51 pm

Tanong lang ok bang gamitin yung kmc chain sa single speed o yung shimano na pang 9 speed?

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Post by jaymz Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:12 pm

heto oh! drunken

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Post by duckel Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:47 pm

johnO wrote:Tanong lang ok bang gamitin yung kmc chain sa single speed o yung shimano na pang 9 speed?

single speed specific dapat goku para di mag stretch
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Post by skamper Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:15 am

hehe my bashguard na po ako... yung shimano ig 500 lang. hehehehe la pa ako nabibili na crank eh
malamang alivio na lang para square taper. 34-16 gagamitin ko eh. hehehe yun na lang ang prob ko. may nakita na ako sa handyman na washer.. hehehe ginamit yun ni tolits sa cranks nya. hehehehe nabasa ko lang dito sa forum din. ang prob ko ngayon is kung hindi sasakto ang bolts ko. malamang maghanap ako ng mas mahabang bolts... hehehehhhe pero ok lang. salamat sa mga info ha!!
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Post by aquifer Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:12 am

duckel wrote:
johnO wrote:Tanong lang ok bang gamitin yung kmc chain sa single speed o yung shimano na pang 9 speed?

single speed specific dapat goku para di mag stretch

Agree kay Duckel for SS specific chains kaya lang kailangan no ramp chain raings ang gamitin..yung sa akin kumakabyos..for ramped up chain rings, okay na yung 9 speed chains ma KMC man o Shimano..Binalik ko ag 9 speed chains ko sa SS ko..shoot uli.
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Post by sup Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:35 am

swabe 34-16 Cool
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Post by johnO Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:28 pm

aquifer wrote:Agree kay Duckel for SS specific chains kaya lang kailangan no ramp chain raings ang gamitin..yung sa akin kumakabyos..for ramped up chain rings, okay na yung 9 speed chains ma KMC man o Shimano..Binalik ko ag 9 speed chains ko sa SS ko..shoot uli.

ah ok tnx., sa plato ok lang ba yung mid ring ang gamitin o small ring tnx...

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Post by skamper Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:49 am

guys! naka order na ako ng set ng drive train ko! hehehehehe! eto! ano po opinion nyo??
cranks: alivio crank set
cogs: fire eye SS kit
Tensioner: da bomb tensioner rl-4
chain: kmc chain K710 or kmc chain k810

another question po? alin po sa chain ang mas ok gamitin kung maliit lang po dideprensya sa presyo? meron na din po ako spacer para sa bolts hehehehe yung sukat po is 3/8 nakuha ko po sa handyman.. pero iniisip ko mas maganda kung may bashguard ako! hehehehe kaya kung mag bashguard ako? kakailanganin ko ng mahabang bolts? at ano po suggest nyo na pedals? yung flat po ha.... yung mura pero maganda para sa masher tulad ko? BTW 32/16 po gagamitin ko with 2.35 tires (dirt ripper)
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Post by obetski Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:53 am

yung k7 mas makapal sa k8.
if you are using the mid ring ng alivio crank mo na hindi ss specific, i suggest yung k8 kasi mas manipis sya, mas swak.
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