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Post by vwbeetle on Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:28 am

mga ka-SS. pa tulong naman. yung SS set up ko 32x16. gamit ko shimano middle ring. fireeye cog saka fireeye tensioner. IG chain.

pagnaka-angat ayos naman. ok naman ang alignment walang problema. pero pag ginagamit na, lalo na pagakyatan at may load, may pagkakataon na kumakabyos. hindi naman nadederail.

kadena kaya ang problema? dapat ba ako magpalit ng SS chain? ayoko kasi bumili kaagad baka di yun ang problema. mahal eh. hehehehe

salamat po.
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Post by paulbaguio on Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:28 am

bago ba ang middle ring mo at ang cog mo sa likod? yung chain mo ba bago din?
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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by joes43 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:44 pm

matigas na link, or wala sa chainline. check for both.
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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by jaymz on Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:29 pm

OT:

how much for the fireeye spur & ssk? Wink Wink

thanks!!!


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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by vwbeetle on Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:25 pm

@joe43- checked the chainline...medyo in-adjust ko pa ulit and as far as i can see its aligned..kaya lang ganun pa rin. noticed lang na medyo makapal yung cog...baka hindi siya bagay dun sa IG chain?

@paulbaguio- relatively bago yung chainring, pero yung chain saka cog nagamit ko na ng mga 3 months. dati ang gamit ko da bomb rl3, parang di ko naman napapansin na kumakabyos

@jaymz- yung fireeye cog nabili ko ng second hand. yung tensioner nabili ko bago at P1K
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Post by maxbuwaya on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:54 pm

May exeprience akong ganyan. i dont know kung pareho tayo pero yung akin was sa likod ang problem, what i did was aligned the dropout forcefully with my bare hand.

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Post by dirtyjane on Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:55 pm

if you are using ramped cogs, chain and chainrings, may noise talaga, parang nadederail, sometimes un tensioner is not aligned with the cog, pde din chainline is not straight.
try using a 7spd chain para mas wide sya but without the weight penalty of a bmx chain.
to get the chainline dead straight, use a plum line. tie a string to a 5 centavo coin to make an improvised plum, hang your bike vertically with the front wheel on top and hang the string from the chainring to the cog, you should be able to get the chain line dead straight. Very Happy
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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by jaymz on Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:17 am

na-experience ko yesterday & today yang kumakabyos na kadena... Evil or Very Mad

ang problema is the ramped chainring!

kainis! Evil or Very Mad

now...

can you guys recommend a good single-speed 32T chainring? four bolt-config po... thanks! Wink

(dapat ganito ang true review... yung na-try... hindi yung 'as i can see', 'from the looks of it', 'i think', 'and oh!', 'btw'...achuchuchu... Twisted Evil

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Post by sup on Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:35 am

jaymz, chainline yan.. hehehehe! try mo yung ginawa ni arnie (dirtyjane). kung hindi pa rin ubra, nabasa ko sa kabila na meron daw kay raven. bili na dali! Smile
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Post by pinoyrasta on Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:47 am

jaymz wrote:
can you guys recommend a good single-speed 32T chainring? four bolt-config po... thanks! Wink


Koya Kolot afro

KCNC Non-ramped Single ring 32T 4-bolt, meron ako. PHP2500.00. lol!
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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by jaymz on Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:49 am

@sup: hmmm... na-overlook ka yan ha! Rolling Eyes
try ko nga ngayon...
AY! meron nga pala akong laser todits sa work!!!! yehey!!!! cheers
thanks! thanks!!!! Wink I love you
update ko kayo asap! afro

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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by magku on Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:55 am

Tanong naman tungkol sa chainline.. dun sa nakagamit ng fire-eye na spacer kit at 18t cog, paano arrangement nung spacers nyo? saan nakalagay yung big spacer na may logo, yung big spacer na walang logo at yung pinaka manipis na spacer? sinubukan ko na ang iba't ibang pwesto nung mga spacers pero parang hindi parin perfect yung chainline. pag back pedal, parang may sumasabit, aligned naman yung jockey wheel sa 18t cog. pag paharap wala naman. pwede ko kayang bawasan or ilipat yung drive side spacer ng BB? yung crank na gamit ko ay fsa moto, mukang clone din ng mga shimano na cranks, mid-ring lang ang gamit. salamat Very Happy

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Post by jaymz on Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:41 am

magku,

sinunod ko lang image sa site nila



pero ngayon, mukhang interchange ko kung kelangan...

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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by king on Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:47 am

kailangan alligned din yung cog & pulley sa chainring. subukan mo dini ilagay sa labas yung chianring sa crankarm (or sa loob kung nasalabas na siya. iba iba din kasi yung design ng crankarms or width ng BB axle so hahanapin mo talaga yung chainline. the more spacers the better. kung marami kang makukuhang bb spacer mas ok din yun kasi dadami ooptions mo. good luck!

magku wrote:Tanong naman tungkol sa chainline.. dun sa nakagamit ng fire-eye na spacer kit at 18t cog, paano arrangement nung spacers nyo? saan nakalagay yung big spacer na may logo, yung big spacer na walang logo at yung pinaka manipis na spacer? sinubukan ko na ang iba't ibang pwesto nung mga spacers pero parang hindi parin perfect yung chainline. pag back pedal, parang may sumasabit, aligned naman yung jockey wheel sa 18t cog. pag paharap wala naman. pwede ko kayang bawasan or ilipat yung drive side spacer ng BB? yung crank na gamit ko ay fsa moto, mukang clone din ng mga shimano na cranks, mid-ring lang ang gamit. salamat Very Happy
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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by jaymz on Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:57 am

ask ulit...

the kmc chain... k810...



meron bang right or wrong installtion nito?

i put the sexy side (curved) inside (wrapping the cog/chainring)... & the flat-chested side sa labas...
tama ba?

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Re: help: SS kumakabyos kadena

Post by duckel on Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:07 pm

never had that experience on my ss..........
i have ramped 32T chainring and non-ramped cog.... i also have tensioner, da bomb, yun single jockey wheel.

things to check,

tama si joes.
tama si kolot.
tama si max.

things to change
your chain IG or HG... it should be SS specific chain.

hth
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Post by jaymz on Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:27 pm

bri,
ano cog mo? fireeye o da bomb?

same kami ni vwbeetle na fireeye kasi ang cog...

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Post by duckel on Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:24 pm

novatec (online purchase sa US). same thickness ng ibang SS specifig cog. i'll ride tomorrow on SS. pakita ko sayo kung magkita tayo. may 20T ako kung gusto mo pahiram ko sayo.

btw, yun chain ko is kmc din, from paulinas.. 350 to 400 lang halaga. got it 2 years ago. wala pang stretch
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Post by jaymz on Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:04 pm

sabi ni dandan nung saturday...
tensioner ko raw or chain length...
tirahin ko muna yung tensioner...
pag hindi pa rin i'm buying another chain Like a Star @ heaven

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Post by aquifer on Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:55 am

Koya Kolot never ako nagka problema sa SS ko...Ramp up chain rings, and SS specific cogs with Surly Tensioner..using also a used 9 speed specific chain..

carefully check the chain line lang, yun ang secret..tanong mo si King..sa kanya ko natutunan yan sa mga posts nya.. been using my SS sa trails at sa terrain ng Subic to Morong Bataan all these time..and I am heavier than you lol!
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Post by jaymz on Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:34 am

koya dante,
addressed the chainline na...
i experienced another kabyos when i pedaled the ss up an overpass...
palagay ko nga chain length...ayaw kasi ako ibili nung madir ng haplink eh What a Face
i saw something sa net na ginawang push ala-rennen ang pull-tensioner..
i'm trying it later. Wink

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Post by aquifer on Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:58 am

jaymz wrote:koya dante,
addressed the chainline na...
i experienced another kabyos when i pedaled the ss up an overpass...
palagay ko nga chain length...ayaw kasi ako ibili nung madir ng haplink eh What a Face
i saw something sa net na ginawang push ala-rennen ang pull-tensioner..
i'm trying it later. Wink

Ay oo koya...baka sobrang haba ng chain mo..9 speed ba o yung SS specific na chain gamit mo?
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Post by jaymz on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:03 am

aquifer wrote:Ay oo koya...baka sobrang haba ng chain mo..9 speed ba o yung SS specific na chain gamit mo?

koya,
kmc k810... ss-spec...

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Post by king on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:06 am

zip tie lang katapat niyan. mag baon ka lang ng extra palagi sa tool kit mo in case maputol or kailangan mo putulin (in case of a flat) yung zip tie.

meanwhile, naka align din ba yung tensioner sa cog & chainring?

jaymz wrote:koya dante,
addressed the chainline na...
i experienced another kabyos when i pedaled the ss up an overpass...
palagay ko nga chain length...ayaw kasi ako ibili nung madir ng haplink eh What a Face
i saw something sa net na ginawang push ala-rennen ang pull-tensioner..
i'm trying it later. Wink
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Post by jaymz on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:08 am

@king,
yep. dandan said chainlength nga ang prob...
that's what i'm thinking... zip-tying the b*tch! What a Face
chainline is good.
thanks! Wink

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Post by aquifer on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:27 am

hehehe...di ko pa nagagamit yung aking KMC na galing kay badeng koya dahil wala pa akong mahanap na half link na specific para don..ayokong matulad sa 'yo.. lol! ...maigi kasi permanent solution...
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Post by sup on Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:00 pm

jaymz, palitan mo na frame.. What a Face

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Post by edededed on Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:48 pm

check mo chain line.. or beter yet, gamit ka ng single speed chain. ung mura lang na nabibili sa LBS.

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Post by maxbuwaya on Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:46 pm

pag gumamait ka ba ng SS Specific chain no need for tensioner? san ba nakakabili ng SS Specific chain?

Prerequisite ba sa crank set at ss gear?
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Post by edededed on Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:36 am

maxbuwaya wrote:pag gumamait ka ba ng SS Specific chain no need for tensioner? san ba nakakabili ng SS Specific chain?

Prerequisite ba sa crank set at ss gear?

depende sa kung anong combination gagamitin mo.. saka kung sakto dun ung chain mo. Yung sa akin, 32x14, sakto naman ung kadena so no need for a tensioner. pero kung ayaw sumakto yung length ng kadena sa desired combi mo, kelangan mo (siguro) mag tensioner. single speed chain can be bought at any bike shop.. same lang (ata) un sa mga ginagamit for bmx at cruisers na single speed

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